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|0000604||FreeCAD||Feature||public||2012-02-15 19:46||2013-02-17 17:59|
|Target Version||Fixed in Version||0.14|
|Summary||0000604: Stable PPA|
|Description||Make a Stable PPA, starting from official 0.13 release|
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Going here https://sourceforge.net/projects/free-cad/files/FreeCAD%20Linux/ and there's nothing for 0.12.
All the links to download for Ubuntu from the FreeCAD homepage take you to 0.11
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On Linux, it's generally the distros job to package software.
And FreeCAD has a PPA on Launchpad with the latest... The Download link on FreeCAD homepage gives this info:
But if people don't visit the FreeCAD web site and just stay on the Sourceforge page, what can we do???
FYI it's a real hassle to build .deb packages. You need to build packages for every supported Ubuntu version (currently 10.04 LTS, 10.10, 11.04 and 11.10) as there are differences in dependencies. Then you need to build for 32 Bit AND 64 Bit. So, 8 separate builds in total. That means you need the 8 different Ubuntu versions installed as well, or chroot environments.
While Launchpad takes care of all this with its automated servers.
I can understand why it's a problem to provide. I first realised it wasn't there after trying to provide someone with a link to the newest version - I felt that a single, fairly up-to-date install was perhaps most appropriate for this person rather than the ppa. I'd assumed that at the time when 0.12 was technically released, a static copy of the relevant .debs from the PPAs would have been made and stored somewhere. Though I admit I am not very familiar with packaging etc so accept even this may not have been practical.
Really though, my particular concern as it stands, rather than the .deb absence, is the fact that on the FreeCAD webpage there's a big box in the right hand corner labelled 'Download latest stable release' with a link for Ubuntu 10.04 32bit - if we provide a link/box like that, can we complain if someone uses it?? And yet it takes them directly (ie without any further info re PPAs) to a download link for 0.11 - 0.3729. Perhaps we should change that front page link to take to the section regarding the PPAs?
Norm I think it's best to use the one PPA for stable packages only for releases from now on.
And the front page should indeed be changed to mention the PPA and give a description of how to use the PPA.
Uploading .deb directly onto SF as I did in the past doesn't make sense any more which BTW is even less convenient than having a PPA.
j-dowsett, you said "if we provide a link/box like that, can we complain if someone uses it??", but actually, we are NOT providing this button, Sourceforge is, and we have no control over that green button (I think). Werner, are you talking about our MediaWiki front page, or the Sourceforge project page? Those are 2 different things, and it was my understanding that we don't have much control over the latter.
Unfortunately, I have a feeling many people don't seek out our true Web Site and stay on the SF project page for info.
As for the PPA, are you talking about the PPA Devel one, the one I update manually?
> As for the PPA, are you talking about the PPA Devel one, the one I update manually?
||Or maybe let the PPA Devel stay as it is and create a freecad-stable one instead, because the devel one has 0.13 packages already. What I can do is no longer update the devel one, and at some point (after 0.13 release?) delete it.|
I also think we should forget about the 0.12 now, and as soon as the official 0.13 is out, we take the first packages from the PPA (devel or daily) and keep them as "official" packages in a Stable PPA
The info on the homepage Download box was changed to link to the general PPA page (that explains how to use it).
Let's rename this issue to "make a stable PPA starting from 0.13" okay? Normand, you want to have your first assigned mantis issue? ;)
I haven't updated the freecad-devel PPA in a while. I think once 0.13 is officially released, we should delete it and replace it with a "freecad-stable" one (I'm not sure I can rename the existing one but I will check).
With hindsight I realize I incorrectly assumed j-dowsett was talking about the FreeCAD Sourceforge page while he was actually talking about the website (the MediaWiki powered one which URL ends with title=Main_Page).
But I'm wondering if we shouldn't also copy the stable PPA packages (once they are available) to the sourceforge file repo as well.
That way, when a potential Ubuntu user visits the FreeCAD sourceforge page at https://sourceforge.net/projects/free-cad/, the green button will show the real latest release and not the old 0.11.3729.
freecad-dev's url could not be renamed so I created a new PPA, all that it now needs is the v0.13 official release. :-P
||Stable PPA is now functional.|
||Need to mark as "closed" expressly otherwise it doesn't appear correctly in the changelog...|
|2012-02-15 19:46||j-dowsett||New Issue|
|2012-02-29 03:40||normandc||Note Added: 0001679|
|2012-02-29 03:43||normandc||Note Added: 0001680|
|2012-02-29 06:53||j-dowsett||Note Added: 0001681|
|2012-02-29 06:56||j-dowsett||Note Edited: 0001681|
|2012-02-29 10:31||wmayer||Note Added: 0001683|
|2012-02-29 11:45||normandc||Note Added: 0001689|
|2012-02-29 12:17||wmayer||Note Added: 0001690|
|2012-03-02 00:51||normandc||Note Added: 0001697|
|2012-05-05 18:26||yorik||Note Added: 0002016|
|2012-05-05 20:40||normandc||Note Added: 0002020|
|2012-05-06 21:08||yorik||Summary||There's no 0.12 deb available => Stable PPA|
|2012-05-06 21:08||yorik||Description Updated|
|2012-05-06 21:10||yorik||Status||new => assigned|
|2012-05-06 21:10||yorik||Assigned To||=> normandc|
|2012-08-26 21:42||normandc||Note Added: 0002328|
|2013-02-17 16:44||normandc||Note Added: 0002915|
|2013-02-17 16:44||normandc||Status||assigned => resolved|
|2013-02-17 16:44||normandc||Fixed in Version||=> 0.13|
|2013-02-17 16:44||normandc||Resolution||open => fixed|
|2013-02-17 17:59||yorik||Note Added: 0002918|
|2013-02-17 17:59||yorik||Status||resolved => closed|
|2013-02-17 17:59||yorik||Fixed in Version||0.13 => 0.14|